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I think the initial post covers most of the business side of the merge and comments from faction command of SO, DOJ etc on the thread really shows that a lot of time and care has gone into the process of this test run of completing a merge of LDSO & USCG but I still would like to suggest a slight change. Even reading these above opinions I feel as someone who has recently returned to the community and was a member of Blufor Faction Command on 2.0/3.0 during the introduction of Coast Guard as a faction to King's County there is only one thing that while some have addressed I think I would like to go a bit further on. I understand that yes, I have been away for some time, 18 months or so but since I was one of the heads of the KSP/KCSO for a time I think I owe it to Captain Boyd and the USCG original team to really push the point that what they have done with Coast Guard in the time I was here was always a fantastic server addition even if I wasn't a fan of it during its initial implementation. Captain Boyd and the rest of USCG really made it its own in the time I got to briefly Liaise with them as a faction lead and I'm glad of the positives this merge will bring if he remains here to lead it going forward into 5.0 and beyond. I want to preface that I have not attended any meeting on how this merge came to light so my knowledge is all from this thread but I will detail that my main point and opinion is that to ensure that this merge is as successful as possible while also showing both factions rank & file that this is a 100% positive benefit to them is if a slight change to the proposed structure is made. I think with all things considered in previous replies to the thread and my rambling above that for this merge to be a perfect fit in my own opinion & hopefully in the eyes of some members of both factions that may be against the merge is that I would like to see a third Sheriff Command role be brought back, a slot we had on 2.0 Kamden and that Captain Boyd should be put into it with his second in command being added as a 4th Major(Maritime/Aviation Overwatch). The structure change I propose is as follows: Blufor Rank Structure After LDSO/USCG Merge: Sheriff - Clark, Undersheriff - Lennar, Deputy Sheriff - Boyd Major - Sanchez(Spec Ops), Black(Patrol/DOC?), Shreman(Academy?), Boyd's Right Hand(Aviation/Maritime) Captain - Patrol, DOC, Highway, Academy, SWAT, CID, Maritime. I do agree that merging MSRT/CGIS into Spec Ops is the best route to take and with the regular rank & file conversions below Captain. Thanks for reading.

Personally, As Previous Coast Guard and Current DOC I believe the is for the better. It may not show at the beginning of the weekend. However I do believe this is needed for both factions. I know when I was in CG the only thing I enjoyed was Aviation (That is just personal preference) due to lack of things to do. I do say if Coast Guard does go back to being a separate faction permanently they would most likely need some more Jurisdiction or stuff to do.

I've been cg for over a year and cgis (I just left cg) I was bored of cg in general limited things to do I spent most my time on land out of areas I can do anything. Cg is fun for being cg and how it is run I rather enjoyed. I do agree there's too many Leo's. You would have say 25 cops on 10 cg on is about average peak ish time so 35 Leo for say 80 or 90 people in total so let's say 70 civs 105 pop in total that's 1 Leo per 2 people bare in mind 10 are probs doing Ruby's or legal 10 sat in pine role-playing, you get my idea. Too many Leo's mean every cop and cg goes to everything instantly. I feel bad for people in cg and hope they get good ranks and those in cgis and msrt kinds being pushed off for their work unless they get a cid or swat transfer idk. I do think this was inevitable though and was rumoured for quite long time.

+1 man 100% agree how this merge is structured at this point is terrible Cg and LDSO have a completely different objective and different culture and with the comment on punishments I 100% agree our punishment system is an absolute joke compared to you guys and any cop can attest our thing is a joke the fact you can appeal points and by the time it gets looked at the points are gone. This merge is genuinely the worst idea I have seen in a long time. would be a better idea just to let CG do what PD does anyway going to our majors and letting them have EQUAL SAY this merge genuinely has to be such an unfair thing I have seen in a long time for both sides. I enjoy having CG and PD separate our goals are 100% different this merge needs to either go away or needs to go back to the drawing board with PD cmd and PD members everyone not just Lts and shit but EVERYONE and the same with CG cmd and members giving ideas. This has so many issues and problems that I am seeing this needs to be thought about more and have more community say than just a few people. I would honestly rather both factions just share jurisdiction obv not for special things like for cgis and what msrt can do but for what your avg guardsman can do and what avg patrol can do just share jurisdiction. Just overall this merge I am seeing so many issues in it and it feels like an unbaked idea vs a well thought out idea I am more than willing if any PD cmd or CG cmd wants to know what these issues are I can either list them to you in DMS or put them here. I do genuinely appreciate everything Both SMT and PD and CG cmd are trying to do but this isn't a good idea. This merge will fuck over pd members so insanely hard and I don't think anyone actually sees it

Pre Trial ~ My honest opinion about this merge is I am mostly against it because in CG we have built a culture built on countless hours playing together to the point where I feel as if merging us into the LDSO would destroy that culture. Furthermore, Nick Boyd is an excellent captain and has been one of the best things to happen to CG losing him through a pre mature merge would make a lot of people want to leave CG. Moreover, I believe that compared to the LDSO, CG has a much better punishment system where if you get punished you always have a chance to have your side of the story heard usually through a CM, it is a brilliant system that a lot of the guardsmen that we have rely on if they get punished unfairly, which happens all the time and if you think it doesn't then you're living under a rock. Finally, I believe that USCG is a good thing to have especially for the people that want to be able to be law enforcement without having to be handing out tickets every two minutes for running a stop sign or pulling someone over and giving them a fine because they are driving at night time without headlights on.

I personally think the merge is a good idea kinda, but I dont think putting our command members all basically pushed down a rank or two. If its a merge then why cant it be fair for someone like Nick Boyd 900+ tig to get a higher rank, hes probably the most dedicated guy on anzus and he gets major? I personally think thats a violation. I dont think the ranks are being fair here, no heat or anything but I think dougs argument is that why would they move pd members out of their command rank, but every single command member in cg is basically getting demoted.

Pre trail- I have no issues with the merge as I have been both in coast gaurd and LDSO so I get along with both and know a good amount of people in both. But j see issues with the merge, why not just rewrite the jurisdiction agreement and just give coast gaurd the same jurisdiction or slightly less as pd it would do the same thing keeping both party's happy. But I am pro merge.

good thing for msrt/cgis then. I still want to say again, PO should be made CPL, regardless of enough ranks in CG or not. POs getting SR Dep is a huge insult. I am willing to bet if this is not done, a good chunk of POs will discharge sadly. New rank fix: Seaman recruit - Probationary to start. I think this can be substitued by asking cg command inputs on low tig members, etc. and make the people they arent confident in, cadets. But do not fuck all of CGs ranks cause of 1 extra rank, just make half the rank go through cadet and half not. Seaman Apprentice - DeputySeaman - Senior DeputyChief Petty Officer/Petty Officer - Cpl you already merged 2 of the command ranks, I think merging these two, both CPOs and POs will be fine with, cause CG actually respect eachother.SCPO - Sgt

I personally DO NOT want to merge, myself and many others only joined to play CG, because it was a different and unique way to play as an LEO that you don't see around. With that option gone continuing with PD doesn't seem as an appealing playstyle. It is true CG content is lacking and it feels like our content has been getting reduced with every update. Some of the MAA's are unfavorable which causes the lack of content as well but that could be fixed with communication. I feel bad for the lower enlisted ranks of CG getting put through the merge. The ones who have worked hard getting into their perspective departments and putting in the time do move up within them and to have all that hard work virtually thrown away with a merge just doesn't sit right to me. Although its possible that new connections and positions would be available to them the competition for those spots would be much greater, making them feel like their time has been wasted. As for development we already have all the assets for CG and if we're struggling I'm sure more than a few are willing to help fund it if needed. I feel like the merge would cause more work for the developers as well making entirely new skins for everything in the new boat/air department. I'm sure there are many more things I'd like to add just can't think of it right now, regardless I'm against the merge and I believe I would lose the appeal to play if the one thing I joined for is gone. Thanks

Personally as CG I am against it, a lot of hard work as been put in to CG and it would be disappointing to see it go away. CG is a lot of fun and I personally don’t see a problem with the way it is right now. I think a lot of CG are in the same boat (no pun intended) in this regard. That’s just my 2 cents on the matter.

I agree with this in the sense that we dont need to merge but can just rewrite jurisdiction, for IE. Giving CG join juridiction in a city or two like bald bay.

From what I've seen from playing civ for an hour or two. I don't like the fact that we have 30 cops+ having 20 on alone already got us over response reports hourly. And plus all the civs right now are mostly cop mains just trying to have some fun with the CG boys. Once hour requirements start to come back. I feel the server will have 40 cops on at all times when only like 20-30 civs will play and that's not gonna be fun for anybody especially when it's gonna be mostly SWAT/CID personnel. PS. Ashton Earnhardt~

I honestly don't like the idea of the merge, I know that a lot of people in CG joined CG because they don't like playing as LDSO. I feel like removing a whole faction is just not the right thing to do especially when people have worked hard to get to where they are, the wont hold the same rank on cop. is it because cg is "inactive"? Then add more stuff for them to do, yes you have Boyd Island with 2-3 majors but no civ is willing to buy a heli for 1.5 M and fly there when they can just get to the eggplant at Bald Bay by driving. I just think that if the devs dedicate a bit more time into CG rather than pd in like making a new major that would help out a lot. For example, oil rigs are never robbed nowadays, back when helis were cheap they used to get robbed a lot more, I havent seen anyone do a blood diamond since 3.0 either. If anything i feel that all of CG should have the vote if they want to merge or not.

not in cg anymore, but i think it would be a shame to lose the unique dynamic. Obviously there were jokes about CG being "water PD," but both factions operated very differently besides just being water and land base

I think this is an amazing idea. Honestly, fixes any confusion with jurisdiction and everyone will have more fun. I hope that for the CG division in LDSO, you dont have to use 10 codes still, thats what made CG unique, and the main reason most join CG as opposed to LDSO as it stands rn. I think that the CG in the LDSO merge should be able to have a special division, you cant just rip the effort of MSRT and CGIS from the people who have worked for over a year to get where they are in the special divisions. I honestly think the CG rank to LDSO rank should be changed so petty officer is at least CPL, cause thats how its always been viewed in CG, either SGT or CPL, cause they have a lot more responsibility than sr deps in LDSO and I think you guys are completely neglecting that and discrediting the work of Petty Officers, there is literally people who have been Petty for over 200 days while being HELLA ACTIVE and doing a ton of stuff for the faction. CG promotions from what I noticed in CG about a year ago, were really strict. There were some amazing petty officers that never got promoted, just cause the people who ran CG or the low command, neglected the dedication of those members. I think SMT/SLT/Devs need the input more of mid rank and low command CG cause the ranking system is not at all what any of them would agree to, and if they do, theyre lying to themselves. I think we all agree, that the merge will make for more dev work at first but overtime it will get easier, but I do not think you should rip MSRT from people, etc. Also, look at all the vehicles in CG that are skinned for the divisions, etc. This all cant just be neglected.

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I can see the benifits to both and the shock to "disbanding" a unique faction deffinatly not having a great way to be softened or "fair" with regards to allowing all to stay at current ranks and commensurate leadership roles. What if you had a police commissioner that was an interviewed and appointed manager with fair shot to all who are deemed "qualified" by SMT and then each devision still had a "Chief" and their leadership ranks below. Would allow those in command positions to still have positions and a fair represention/neutral commisioner that in theory would not be biased and persevere the specialties each side brings if they were merged. I believe a system set up in that way would be a more sustainable way to incorporate and provide worth to those already running each faction currently.